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Making the Move to Public Accounting
by Dona DeZube - May 13, 2009
Accountants who move back and forth between the public and corporate worlds can maintain - and even boost - their salaries, but only if they have the right combination of credentials and experience.

While moving from public to corporate accounting is almost always easy, going the other way can involve a pay cut. "If you don't have any public accounting experience, you have to start at the entry-level salary," warns says Joan Kampo, director of human resources for accounting firm WithumSmith+Brown, based in Princeton, N.J. "If someone is coming from corporate accounting, even if they have general professional experience, they may not get the same wage they're accustomed to because they don't have the technical experience."

An experienced corporate accountant without a CPA may receive a slightly higher wage than someone right out of college. However, she would make less than an accountant who's been in the business for the same amount of time, has their CPA, and worked in a public accounting firm, Kampo says.

Credentials Make a Difference

Still, the tight hiring market has made firms such as Aarons, Grant & Habif in Atlanta more willing to hire mid-career accountants who want to move to public accounting. "My best hire was someone coming out of the healthcare industry who wanted to change his whole focus," says AG&H Internal Recruiter Michelle Robinovitz. "He had the personality, spirit and passion, so we took a chance and he took a chance."

Kenneth Breaux, CPA, joined AG&H in 2007 after being laid off from his $120,000-a-year position as an internal auditor for a Fortune 100 insurance company. "It was the best move I've ever made," he says. "The hours are a little more grueling in the busy season, but that was explained upfront. Of course, I wasn't new to long hours, having 22 years in the profession."

Some, but not all, of those who left the corporate side to join AG&H were already CPAs. "They all understand they have to come in and prove they can cut it," Robinovitz says. "We gave them a teeny bump in compensation and as reviews came around, we gave them a big bump."

More than Salary

Steven Elliott, CPA, MST, a senior tax associate at Janover Rubinroit in Garden City, N.Y., has moved between public and private accounting several times. Three years ago, he took a $5,000 pay cut when he left a public accounting job to work for a law firm doing trusts and income tax work for clients. "In all my years of accounting, it was my easiest year ever," Elliott observes. "There weren't any late nights, even during the tax season."

What drove him out? "I got bored," he says. "If I had been in my 50s, it would have been a great place to retire from." As he warns young accountants he works with as a mentor for the Massachusetts Society of CPAs: "There's a balance between being bored and being over-stressed."

Advice for Fence Jumpers

If you're inclined to make the leap yourself, keep in mind you're going to have to go in at a salary equal to the folks that already work for the firm you're joining, says Kathy Downs, division director, finance and accounting for Robert Half, Inc., in Orlando. "Within those firms, they have issues of internal equity," she explains.

If you've been working in corporate accounting for $40,000 and the class coming into a CPA firm makes $45,000, you'll get the $5,000 pay hike. "But if you've been making $55,000, you have to go in at $45,000 because you don't bring anything of relevancy to the job," Downs says.

There are exceptions: If you've worked, say, a year in public accounting, then went into industry and want to come back, you may be able to capitalize on your experience, Downs says.

If you have the education required of CPAs in your state, Downs recommends finding out if you can sit for the CPA exam and then get any required public accounting experience. Passing the exam may help you overcome the challenge of convincing a public firm you have the chops to play ball on their court. "They're going to introduce you to their clients, put the time into training and then you could realize it isn't fulfilling enough or the career path isn't quick enough," Downs says. "If you get an interview, they'll want to understand why you'd take a step back or make a lateral move."

Acceptable responses to that question include:

• You didn't realize earlier in your career the importance of having a public accounting background.
• You get bored going to the same place and are seeking diversity in clients.
• You have a desire to specialize in a particular area of accounting, such as Securities and Exchange Commission reporting, that requires a shift into public accounting.

Think Before You Leap

If you don't have the CPA and need additional education, you may want to address those requirements before you try to move into public accounting. "The thought is, if someone didn't get the CPA without the demands of public accounting, why should I be inclined to think they can do it (once they’re working in public accounting?" Downs says.

Originally published August 26, 2008

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Dnell (PA) on 12 Nov 2009 at 2:45 pm

With four plus years of corporate accounting/ financial services experience, what would be the best way to go about landing a position in the public accounting arena? Although I have a bachelor's in business management/ accounting i'm thinking to maybe "start over." Going back for my MBA and sitting for the CPA exam???? Any suggestions???

rafi (india) on 28 May 2009 at 7:15 pm

Hai sir,

i am very much confussed abot my career, with gradution in B com. i worked in small organistions shifting for every 1-2years, which doesn't gave me an exact Profissionl knowldge For the last 10years. Know i want to do my MBA regular college and want to shift to Manager post , plz guide me how to gain Mangerial experince, during my MBA .

Thanking
RAFI

Xavier Harvey (Columbia, SC) on 27 May 2009 at 7:00 am

I don't really have a comment but a question. My question is what do you say to someone who is currently in school to receive a B.S. in Accounting, wanting to continue on to get a Master's in Information Systems, and eventually take the CPA exam and also my goal is to move to Charlotte? I will say age is not on my side being that I will be 37 next month. I'm willing to start at the bottom if need be and work my up, so how do someone such as myself get the experience needed? The answer to this question will help me out greatly as I can also pass this information on to my colleauge's.

Kevin L (Oregon) on 20 May 2009 at 4:05 pm

As a middle aged corporate accountant with a CPA, I have entertained the idea for a career switch to public accounting. After reading Dona DeZube's article and the experiences of some of the commenter’s below, I think that I will have to finish my career in corporate accounting. I wish Virginia and Jim gook luck in their job searches.

Virginia B. Fisher (Chicago) on 19 May 2009 at 7:44 pm

I have been unemployed for 14 months. I am a CPA and hold an M.S. Taxation. Most of my career has been in public accounting; however, most recently I was with a non-public entity for 8.5 years. I joined the company as a supplemental hire, and moved to permanent status within 2 months as Sr. Tax Consultant - Federal & State. In 2008 my position was closed out due to a reduction in business. I immediately applied to the "Big Four" public accounting firm with which I had had two "tours of duty". I further applied to several other large and medium sized public firms, all with no success. I was informed that rehire was not possible because I had been away from public acctg. for more than 3 years. The information conveyed by Mr. Lytle's letter mirrors the status of my employment search. The attitude in "public acctg." is disappointing, to say the least.

Jim Lytle (Falls Church, VA) on 15 Sep 2008 at 10:03 am

My experience is that, just as when I was first trying to get hired by a public accounting firm, I am offered no hope of getting any kind of a decent job with a public accounting firm when I explore the idea of jumping back into public accounting. Having started in public accounting in my forties, I find that age discrimination is alive and well in public accounting. I have a proven track record as an internal auditor, and my current set of references includes a manager at one of the Big Four firms. I saved my last employer well over $50,000 in external audit fees because of the quality of the audits I designed and managed. Still, I have been out of work for over five months now, and I have been advised by several headhunters who recruit for public accounting firms that the best I could do would be Sr., and the best salary I could command would require me to take a cut of one-third from the salary I had as internal audit manager with my last employer. I am a CPA, and I have completed IT audits (currently preparing for the CISA exam). My experience tells me that this article is not reporting the situation in the job marketplace correctly.

Olga Kosolapova (VA) on 05 Sep 2008 at 6:51 am

The information contained in the article is very useful and informative.
Thank you.

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